
Planning Croatia's Final Solution
HARPERīS MAGAZINE, December 2001, pp. 20-22 READINGS 
From minutes of the September 12 and September 19, 1993, meetings of the 
Council for Defense and National Security of the Republic of Croatia. That year, 
Croat forces murdered up to 400 Serb civilians in the town of Gospic; in 1995 
almost 600,000 Serbs were driven from the Krajina region. This transcript is the 
first proof that President Franjo Tudjman planned and directed ethnic cleansing 
and other war crimes. The minutes were obtained by Chris Hedges of the New York 
Times. Tudjman died in December 1999. 
SEPTEMBER 12, 1993 
PRESIDENT FRANJO TUDJMAN: Gentlemen, it seems that during the last few days we 
have had a great military success with the Gospic operation. At the moment when 
the whole world is recommending - those from the friendly countries as well as 
the others - that we pursue extreme caution and political flexibility, we 
nevertheless let ourselves be drawn, both by the Serbsī provocations as well as 
by our own decision, into a situation that, momentarily, no matter how we 
interpret it, we have commenced an attack, which they have survived, and, given 
our own preparations, that cannot be hidden. Croatia can be held to a charge 
that it is preparing a war with the Serbs in Croatia. 
I must admit, that this is my responsibility, as I have permitted the Gospic 
operation. When General Bobetko came to me with the proposal I took into account 
the Serb provocations - small provocations; for example, their entrance into the 
Velebit Range, where they killed some three special policemen, cutting off an 
ear of one, then the placing of mines at Pakrac, thereby creating a certain 
political climate both in the public and the parliament - so I accepted the 
proposal that we are going into this operation, although I was not informed, as 
I later found out, about all the elements. For example, I knew that Divoselo is 
Serb, but I did not know that all of these villages, which we conquered, were 
Serb. 
In that way, too, considering that we were carrying on the negotiations about a 
cease-fire, we brought ourselves into a situation that we can justify only with 
difficulty, that at a moment when we were discussing a cease-fire we turned to a 
war operation. The members of the international community followed what is 
happening and why it is happening. And then we gave them a little bit of 
different material. Do not think that what General Bobetko is proposing, that we 
prepare two attacks, that they do not observe this and they do not have the 
exact information. And then, in addition, in our statements we brought ourselves 
into a very unfortunate situation. General Bobetko, I told you that after this 
operation it should be explained that they attacked first - that is, in the 
Velebit - and that they did what they did, etc. I said that one has to go before 
the TV cameras and show the captured tanks. 
GEN. JANKO BOBETKO: That will be this evening. 
PRESIDENT: Therefore, we have to attempt to put our actions in harmony with 
international policy in order to regain sovereignty over the whole territory 
with international support and in a peaceful way. Of course, I am not an 
illusionist to think that we shall succeed in this, but then we should not make 
our tasks more difficult. We have to get ready. 
PRIME MINISTER NIKICA VALENTIC: Mr. President, I have to say a word. President, 
with the Serbs in Croatia we shall not solve the problem. The only question is 
when is the time to solve it in another way. 
PRESIDENT: Yes, I know that. 
VALENTIC: Therefore, and this is something of which I want to convince you, as a 
man who spent his whole life down there [in the Gospic area], the Serbs do not 
accept any political solution. I think that all we need to do is to prepare 
better and hit them from several sides. Thank you. 
PRESIDENT: Prime Minister Valentic, with the Serbs in Croatia, those who are now 
leading Knin and Baranja, no. But that is just a small group, and they still 
depend on Belgrade. And the problem is, will the international community force 
Belgrade to stop supplying them? 
The moment when Serbia is forced to do this, then we are going to solve the 
question of Serbs in Croatia. Then that miserable group of some 10 to 20 percent 
will leave Croatia and then we shall solve that. 
And it is clear that we shall not be able to solve it. But should we begin only 
with that premise, then that means war, which the world will not permit. That is 
not the only focal point, only the question of national minorities in Croatia. 
Such problems exist throughout the world, in the Soviet Union, Africa, the 
Middle East, etc. The international community is oriented toward the resolution 
of these questions in a peaceful way - for example, as the relations between the 
Arabs and Israel are being resolved - and that directs us to follow that path, 
not by war; whereas in our country there is a growing understanding that Croatia 
must resolve the problem by war, contrary to international norms, meaning by 
ethnically cleansing the Serbs from Croatia. That is happening in practice 
because we cannot hide that they have the information that in Slavonia, western 
Slavonia, some thirty Serb villages disappeared from the face of the earth, and 
that now these three, four Serb villages were eradicated. This creates a certain 
picture of Croatia on which we cannot build our political status or economic 
relations with the world. Understand that. 
VALENTIC: That is not the issue, President, but this awaits us in a year again. 
It is only the question of timing. This awaits us. 
PRESIDENT: Yes, if it awaits us then it means that we have to prepare also 
politically, that we have to prepare ourselves better militarily, and then we 
also have to prepare so that after our future operation they will no longer be 
able to hit Zagreb. 
VALENTIC: President, as you know, there are many mixed marriages in Gospic; 
several civilians and old ladies are in Senj, where there is a certain 
concentration camp, and that is where we should take those that we captured at 
Citluk and Pocitelj. We should place them there in an acceptable way and then 
show them off and say a few things. Because I know this for sure - because they 
asked me to intervene, a granddaughter of one of these is married to my cousin - 
that in Senj there is a concentration area where you have these refugees from 
Citluk, Divoselo, and Pocitelj. Then we show them that we do it in this fashion.
PRESIDENT: That would be very good, very good. 
VALENTIC: And then when we display them, we pretty them up, wash them, etc. 
SEPTEMBER 19, 1993 
PRESIDENT: Gentlemen, I open this meeting of the Council for Defense and 
National Security with the agenda: the development of the situation concerning 
Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croat-Serb relations. In addition, these UNPROFOR 
people [U.N. peacekeepers] and others tell us that we did not have to leave the 
cleanest clearance behind us after we retreated. 
MATE GRANIC [Foreign Minister]: That is the last news, the main news of the last 
twenty-four hours on the SKY News and CNN. 
BOBETKO: We turned over fifty-two, so it was said, usable Serb bodies, and the 
rest were removed. There are some fifty, sixty, in the forest, because it is 
more difficult to collect them in the forest. But it could happen that they [UNPROFOR] 
entered a little bit too fast. However, that was cleansed, absolutely. They 
cannot find anything over there, at least I think so. 
PRESIDENT: Gentlemen, to conclude, I have another obligation. Three things: no 
military actions from our side now and no provocations; prepare to swallow, 
because now things are being solved in the United Nations and it is important to 
know whether the Croats are for a peaceful solution or not. Therefore, continue 
the conversations with Serbs on all levels. That is one thing. Second, Mate [Granic], 
in Bosnia and Herzegovina under all circumstances carry through the agreements 
[with the Bosnians], particularly everything that we did there - concentration 
camps, etc., etc. 
[John R. MacArthur, President and Publisher of Harperīs Magazine, is the author 
of "Censorship and Propaganda" in the Gulf War, New York: Hill and Wang, 1992.]
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